Announcement

Collapse
No announcement yet.

Mini Hazmat

Collapse
X
 
  • Filter
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts

  • Mini Hazmat

    Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN3984.JPG
Views:	106
Size:	164.1 KB
ID:	89506

    Full disclosure, I have no idea if such a unit existed in real life - an online search turned up nothing.

    When a person thinks of a Hazmat unit, they probably think of a large fire truck bristling with specialized gear. But, apparently, in the 1980s, the FDNY had this unit as part of their Hazmat fleet. Definitely unexpected.

    Another one of my newest Greenlight buys, this unit was part of my little FDNY apparatus binge that also included two Code 3 models. Plus the qualifying aspect was that this makes for a nice pair with my existing Saulsbury Hazmat unit, so I said why not.

    Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN3988.JPG
Views:	97
Size:	158.9 KB
ID:	89507

    It's a really cool model overall, with the opening door on the utility trailer being a nice touch. Too bad there isn't any gear inside.

    Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN3985.JPG
Views:	99
Size:	182.9 KB
ID:	89509

    Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN3987.JPG
Views:	98
Size:	185.6 KB
ID:	89508

    And the aforementioned pair:

    Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN3991.JPG
Views:	98
Size:	133.2 KB
ID:	89510

    Click image for larger version

Name:	DSCN3995.JPG
Views:	98
Size:	137.7 KB
ID:	89511

  • #2
    That is a nice looking set Terence. I keep thinking I should add this set to my FDNY collection. Like you I don't know if this actually existed although I would see it as strongly possible thinking about the early days of HAZ-MAT. While not that, I know back in the mid '80's the ambulance I was with as an EMT carried all of the extrication equipment until regulations came that we had to have a separate rig for that purpose.

    Comment


    • #3
      Originally posted by pjedsel View Post
      Like you I don't know if this actually existed although I would see it as strongly possible thinking about the early days of HAZ-MAT. While not that, I know back in the mid '80's the ambulance I was with as an EMT carried all of the extrication equipment until regulations came that we had to have a separate rig for that purpose.
      I didn't know about those regulations - thanks for the information! It does make sense that they would have a smaller unit before migrating to the big one, but what a difference a decade makes in terms of the size of the unit.

      Comment


      • #4
        I suspect Brian or Sammy over in the apparatus forum could probably offer more insight on whether any departments such as FDNY used something like this for Haz-Mat.

        Comment


        • #5
          The hospital I work at actually does have a haz-mat trailer with all the required gear for chemical spills or other similar related events. I've had to do some training in the event such a thing happens.

          Comment


          • #6
            That is a very nice looking set, thank you for the pics;

            Comment


            • #7
              Sifting through pics and found something close ...

              Click image for larger version

Name:	FDNYHMOPS8137-9801.jpg
Views:	88
Size:	106.8 KB
ID:	89700

              Eric

              Comment


              • #8
                Originally posted by 69ch View Post
                Sifting through pics and found something close ...
                Thanks for the photo! I suspect that's what they were going for but even that looks like a much larger unit and trailer as opposed to the one released. It would make sense to have that large trailer given how much gear Hazmat units have.

                Comment


                • #9
                  Originally posted by pjedsel View Post
                  That is a nice looking set Terence. I keep thinking I should add this set to my FDNY collection. Like you I don't know if this actually existed although I would see it as strongly possible thinking about the early days of HAZ-MAT. While not that, I know back in the mid '80's the ambulance I was with as an EMT carried all of the extrication equipment until regulations came that we had to have a separate rig for that purpose.
                  My Granddad's 1982 EMT textbook (when the mines required that he have EMT training to become a foreman, he got the training; my folks volunteered wtih the Jeffersonville Rescue Squad for about five years) says that an ambulance is required to carry a ton of extrication equipment (among it pry bars, axes, Porta Power, cribbing air chisel); if a seperate truck is used it has to be brought out on every run an ambulance is called out on. My first aid training came out of this book. For many years, I've considered joining the rescue squad, but now, all EMS is county-run and career only. I think this summer, I may just get my EMR or EMT Basic training.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    After doing some more research, I think I found what Greenlight was going for (though I am still a little perplexed about the small trailer). I do wish that they would've added that bed cap on there at the very least.

                    Photo Credits: FDNYTrucks.com (who happens to be a member on the Garage as well!)

                    Click image for larger version  Name:	FDNYHMOPS8639-9801.jpg Views:	0 Size:	104.0 KB ID:	90014

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by cody6268 View Post

                      My Granddad's 1982 EMT textbook (when the mines required that he have EMT training to become a foreman, he got the training; my folks volunteered wtih the Jeffersonville Rescue Squad for about five years) says that an ambulance is required to carry a ton of extrication equipment (among it pry bars, axes, Porta Power, cribbing air chisel); if a seperate truck is used it has to be brought out on every run an ambulance is called out on. My first aid training came out of this book. For many years, I've considered joining the rescue squad, but now, all EMS is county-run and career only. I think this summer, I may just get my EMR or EMT Basic training.
                      Cody - yeah - it was one of the issues when the regulations came that we couldn't carry that equipment in the ambulance. We did set up a specific truck to carry it and, as noted, had to make the runs with us - the problem was - since we were a volunteer squad we had enough problems getting enough EMT's let along another group trained to run the extrication equipment. Most of us were cross-trained to do both. Most "thrilling/scary" run I dwelt with was a cab over semi that went off the road and the trailer slid over the top of the cab with the driver still in it.

                      Eric - thanks for posting the picture of the FDNY pickup and trailer - neat to know such things were used at one time.

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        Overall a nice looking model, but it seems to sit low as if it’s a 2wd, vs the 4x4 CUCV that the real FDNY pick up was. My guess is this real truck / trailer was used to carry a specific type,of,equipment, I know several area departments that run a small trailer to carry just gear for like decon or spill containment and not equipment for every possible scenario.

                        As for the needed equipment on an ambulance, like so many things it can very from state to state. If I recall correctly CT just requires a pry bar and rope for physical rescue gear, the rest is really just for patient care. We have one town remaining where the ambulance corps handles extrication and rescue, but the other 168 towns have fire handle rescue work.

                        Cody, I do recommend taking the EMT course, and recommend that over EMR as EMT is more advance training nd skills. The EMT will also make you more marketable for a job EMS if you desire (or sometimes need something to fall back on) or even a field outside public safety such as the mining you mentioned, working in construction and teachers. Also I caution you on the 1982 EMT book for training, it has much valid and good information but will also have much dated or information that time has taught us is not as correct. I’ve seen the MAST pants go by the wayside, ringers solution take a back seat to saline, we once put every trauma victim on a back board now we hardly ever use them, the tourniquet went from almost never use to a forefront in care. One of things that has come out of the recent wars in the Mid East (As has come from many other wars) has been advances in the way we treat and or understand trauma on patients.

                        Comment


                        • #13

                          Comment


                          • #14
                            Looks great- especially next to the rescue... i hadn't gotten around to doing the research on these just yet- looks like it might be another mystery. i wouldn't be surprised to find out all that it was used for was hauling around a barrel of kitty litter.

                            it's always strange to look back at those old training manuals and learn we were doing all wrong, back then!
                            My Flickr Pix
                            1stPix Facebook Page
                            1stPix You Tube Page
                            1stPix Dioramas Instagram

                            Comment

                            Working...
                            X