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  • #16
    Had some time today so I went down to the basement shop and dug out a few of my Amercom's to show the issues.

    The 70th Anniversary Seagrave appears to be alright, no noticeable issues, however I have never opened the package.


    I spent a bunch of time for the review with the Pierce Ladder for Cedar Hill TX, which is a copy of a Code 3 model.

    First noticeable problem is the fly sections of the ladder will not sit right in the bed section.


    The haze on the windshield, (as well as the side windows) is glue and fingerprints. Also the light bezels are a bit crooked, especially the bottom set for the turn signals. Note the fly sections of the ladder not only pop out the rear but do not sit level.


    Note by the rear cab door and grab bar the glue stain.


    Also glue by the rear cab door handle.


    Front corner of the cab is a run of red paint they tried to whip away.


    My Chicago HME / Luverne pumper is really not much better, much of the same mentioned issue, but this time the chassis seems bent. Never been removed from the base.


    Finally is my Las Vegas Pierce Quantum, this is also a Code 3 copy, I really wanted to original by C3, but past on LVFD as I knew from John Dunkel (who worked for C3 / Funrise) that Bridgeport CT's Quantum Snozzle was in the pipe, however Code 3 closed before this model ever made it past the design phase. The LVFD Snozzle gets a pretty penny so I bought this to fill the void until I find one priced right. To the rear and top of the back door you can see some finger prints of silver in the red paint.


    I also have the Seagrave Pumper shown above, I know its listed as an 2003, but the rig is about 20 years older and is a copy of a Corgi model. I have another pumper two, I believe a Pierce but they were not came upon today, and as I recall have the same types of issues.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Brian49 View Post
      Had some time today so I went down to the basement shop and dug out a few of my Amercom's to show the issues....
      Wow, those are some pretty major issues, especially on the Pierce Ladder. I appreciate your taking the time to post the photos and explain the problems with each one.

      Do you mind my asking... do you recall what you paid for yours when you bought them?

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      • #18
        Like $20 +/- with free shipping from Amazon. Most where fillers on an order, you know like $5 shy of free shipping and paying for shipping would be like $12 so decided to gamble on the model. I think my first few where so so, but the Pierce Ladder or Snozzle where the ones I complained about, the Snozzle was a case of returning two others and the vendor offering a refund and telling me to keep it. After the ladder and Snozzle I stoped buying them.

        I wish they put the same QC at Matchbox in and they would have been a steal.

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        • #19
          i really lucked out on the few Amercom models i have- mine aren't great, but for the most part, not too bad, especially considering i didn't pay more that $13 for any of 'em...
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          • #20
            I saw some of them up close at an antiques mall of a sorts a few years ago...and I think I passed on all of them (to the best of my knowledge, I have no Amercom models). If I remember correctly, my decision was partly because I already had the Code 3 original model and knew at a glance the Amercom castings were not as good. I would have liked that Seagrave 70th Anniversary pumper, however.

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            • #21
              in hindsight, if i knew that i could get the original code 3 or delprado on e-bay, i wouldn't have bothered with them at all. i did use one of the LDVs for parts, and the ones i do have, aren't as bad as some of the ones pictured here...
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              • #22
                So, it's been a few months since my initial inquiry about Amercom, and in that time I have acquired 3 models. While they are not top-dollar high-quality models, they have met my expectations and needs for their price point.

                As a result of my adding these to my garage, I have also added AMERCOM to the Obscure Brands Database - https://www.diecastgarage.org/node/117917


                2020-05-24_04-07-26 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr


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                • #23
                  Interesting that the Amercom packaging is a replica of the original Del Prado packages. Seems they went to a lot of trouble to replicate (fool?) something they're not.

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                  • #24
                    Glad to see and hear your models came out well and you are happy with them.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by b2young View Post
                      Interesting that the Amercom packaging is a replica of the original Del Prado packages. Seems they went to a lot of trouble to replicate (fool?) something they're not.
                      Or perhaps contracted the same company to package and maybe even produce the models for them?
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by jt3 View Post

                        Or perhaps contracted the same company to package and maybe even produce the models for them?
                        Yep, I hadn't considered that. I guess if Del Prado went out of business, it wouldn't matter if their products were still being produced in the same factories but under a different brand. I presume some sort of agreement/license must be involved? No matter. I don't have any Amercom models, but I saw some in an antique mall (now closed) about 10 years ago and they were cheaper (read: lower perceived quality) versions of some Del Prado models in my collection, so I didn't buy any.

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                        • #27
                          I am familiar with Del Prado, and always assumed they were just a partwork publisher also.

                          I'm sure I have more than a few of their model cars, but I think they were all in the 1/43 range (at least the models from the series which I have).

                          Another of these publishers is Hachette. I have a bunch of cars from their Japanese Car Collection series, but again, these are 1/43. Most of the models were "made by" Ixo and Norev.

                          I would tend to classify these Amercom models as Amercom, because that's what it says underneath, and that's what the average layperson is going to call them.


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