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  • Any diecast models disappoint your expectations?

    I hate to write cynical posts, but this has been on my mind recently. Have you ever thought (and probably all of you have), "Oh, why did you bother?" when a diecast car was released and it was done poorly. Even worse is one you really wanted memorialized in 1/64-scale only to have it checked off the list in the 1/64-scale world with a terrible design?

    I think part of it is being spoiled by all the gorgeous adult collectibles and dealer-authorized scale models that we are fortunate enough to have these days. Case in point, I recall the Matchbox #31 Lincoln Continental being an all-time favorite of one of my all-time favorite cars, the 1964 Lincoln Continental. As fantastic as that model is, and I would be unrealistic to have complaints against it, I would love to see an adult-collectible of it, perhaps a modification of the similar Greenlight 1965 version.

    But one of the worst disappointments, but was rectified later, was the Matchbox Mercedes-Benz 350SL. I had a number of these in the 1970s up to the 1982 convertibles in blue and later maroon, but I hated the Matchbox execution of the design. Even the distinctive taillights were ruined by splitting the design between the baseplate and the body casting. It doesn't look cool and sporty, but like a flying brick.

    Bizarrely, I don't recall having the Majorette version despite having plenty of access to Majorette models at local retailers, but I remember being rewarded by Corgi in 1982 when they released that 500SL. OOH YEAH!!!! That was so perfect it made up for the Matchbox disappointment.

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    Most sports cars by Hot Wheels with rear wheels larger than the front wheels. The most egregious examples I can think of are some of the later Ferraris (F430, 458, 599XX, etc) and the modern Mustang Boss 302 (a track toy set up for handling, not the drag strip). I'm very glad Mattel has taken the brand away from that nonsense on the recent JDM and European cars.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by jedimario
      Most sports cars by Hot Wheels with rear wheels larger than the front wheels. The most egregious examples I can think of are some of the later Ferraris (F430, 458, 599XX, etc) and the modern Mustang Boss 302 (a track toy set up for handling, not the drag strip). I'm very glad Mattel has taken the brand away from that nonsense on the recent JDM and European cars.
      While I mostly agree, I feel like the main issue with the HW 'bigs' on the rear of sports cars isn't that they're bigger, it's that it's too much. The small wheels are 10 mm, the bigs are 12. An 11 mm medium sized wheel would give them a bit more flexibility, and they'd be able to use different combos depending on what's appropriate.

      The recent Hot Wheels Integra model for me was both hit and miss. It's too small (it's 1:64, should be 1:60 like all the other Hondas) and since the 10 mm wheels are a bit large for the casting, they wheel arches and wells have been exaggerated to the point it looks more like a JGTC/DTM/IMSA GT/Trans-Am car of the era than a modified street car. A part of me loves it, just like the '85 CR-X gives me a Group B CR-X even if it's not a stock CR-X, but I'm occasionally disappointed that they didn't give me one I can show with all my Civic customized toys.

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      • #4
        I don't know if this goes along the same lines as your topic, but I had always wished Matchbox would offer a Corvair Greenbrier van, it was just something from childhood memories, as my folks had one when I was little.

        So what should have been great news that Hot Wheels was doing one, it ended up being this wild creation.....why didn't Mattel just give the licensing over to Matchbox and let them do a realistic one.

        This of course isn't my picture, because I would never get myself to pick up one of these.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Douglas
          ....why didn't Mattel just give the licensing over to Matchbox and let them do a realistic one.
          I would imagine because Hot Wheels did the one they wanted to do and believed would be successful.

          It's not as though it's not a realistic take on a certain genre of customized van.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Douglas
            I don't know if this goes along the same lines as your topic, but I had always wished Matchbox would offer a Corvair Greenbrier van, it was just something from childhood memories, as my folks had one when I was little.

            So what should have been great news that Hot Wheels was doing one, it ended up being this wild creation.....why didn't Mattel just give the licensing over to Matchbox and let them do a realistic one.

            This of course isn't my picture, because I would never get myself to pick up one of these.

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            Hey Doug, I seem to recall that Greenlight had a Greenbriar in the pipeline, but that was listed at the end of last year for 2019. I suspect one might come along to satisfy your need. I can wholeheartedly agree that I wouldn't want the HW version to fill the niche for the Greenbriar. I also would love to see the Corvair Lakewood. There is one in my area that is around during the summer, and in absolutely magnificent condition with its white over blue paint.

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            • #7
              why did they make that monstrity called 1968 mustang tooned.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by pegers
                why did they make that monstrity called 1968 mustang tooned.
                LOL!!! I don't get ANY tooned cars. The original FoMoCo designer must be rolling over in his grave after the design killed him of a broken heart.

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                • #9
                  LOL!!! I don't get ANY tooned cars.....at the time i was still doing the collector numbered blisters so i was compelled to pick this one up...ugggggggggggggggg

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by pegers
                    LOL!!! I don't get ANY tooned cars.....at the time i was still doing the collector numbered blisters so i was compelled to pick this one up...ugggggggggggggggg
                    LOL, we need to get Toyotafreak in his destructive mode in on the Tooned cars, and have him smash them with hammers and set fire to them (see the Christmas Memories post for reference....."Hark the Herald Angels Sing, Let's Set Fire to this Cobra King")

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                    • #11
                      I accept "'Tooned" cars are a bit of an acquired taste, but when you grow up with the likes of Ed Roth, Tom Daniel, BJ Taylor and the likes, they can be kind of neat. One of my all time favorite Matchbox models is the Cosmic Blues and iterations...and apparently I'm not alone. The 'Tooned models were the only decent in-house designs out of Mattel for the 2004 year, and other than the "stock" models the only others to have relatively decent runs are the Tooned models. So I can deal with those.

                      I agree with Douglas though, I was so looking forward to the Corvair Greenbriar only to have them release this travesty. About the only one worse in recent memory is the pinched loaf on wheels.

                      Generally though, I don't bother with the "pick apart" game, either I like a model or I don't. If I don't, I move on to something else, I don't waste time ragging on something because I don't like it.

                      Consequently there are some makers that I essentially ignore, because I haven't seen anything by them that appeals to my sense of decorum. And that's saying something, because I can find something to like from most makers, and I try to find something to like on most models.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LouisCyphre

                        I would imagine because Hot Wheels did the one they wanted to do and believed would be successful.

                        It's not as though it's not a realistic take on a certain genre of customized van.

                        Yeah...it's not even close. Good to see someone ran with my old idea though. Should have used a Ma Bell 6 door, a Crown V8 conversion with no more than a mild 350 and stock ride height, but a serious roof chop. Now if Hot Wheels had done something like that I would be onboard.

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                        • #13
                          I agree with Wes. If done right, tooned cars can be a lot of fun. When I was a kid the Matchbox "Big Banger" Charger was one of my favorite toys.

                          Years later I think the Hot Wheels designers were influenced by it when they launched the tooned series (and probably the Muscle Machines group as well).



                          You can't convince me the grown-up who designed the car on the right wasn't a kid who played with the car on the left.

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                          • #14
                            yeah
                            any of the ones I DON'T have but do want!

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                            • #15
                              This horrific disaster.....



                              At least it does represent a motorcycle that was never before die-casted. But man....compared to the one I have had since childhood......oy vey.
                              Scotty "Mustang (+Matchbox) Mad Man!"

                              RIP.....Pop.....David Blase Garascia 9-17-35 12-3-20.

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