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    So I assume I'm not the only one who often checks GreenLight official page (https://www.facebook.com/GLCollectibles/) on Facebook for the newest releases. As of November 14, 2019, the GL official page has been liked by 78,660 people and followed by 80,198. This is substantially larger in comparison with the competitions, for example M2 Machines (35,919; 36,482), Johnny Lightning (17,958; 18,527), Auto World (17,024; 17,552) and Racing Champions (4,052; 4,195). It is safe to say the GL marketing team has done a decent job in the PR department.

    What interests me the most whenever I check their FB page is the number of "likes" toward public posts or photos uploaded by the GL team. I find this a barometer of how the upcoming releases, toolings, and series are received by the diecast community. Needless to say, the higher the number of likes, the bigger the anticipation toward the particular release.

    As for 1/64 models, the GreenLight PR team always posts three kinds of photos of each release before the items are actually released. This is 1. artwork 2. deco sample 3. packaging image in that order. Artwork images are often released more than six months prior to the release. Deco samples are released at approx. six months prior to the release. Whenever they post packaging images, it means the item will be released in less than a month or two.

    Of all three kinds of posts, #1 and #2 hype up the diecast fans the most, and they are the most liked posts. In this post, I'd like to compare the number of likes toward the deco sample posts and see which items get the highest number of likes. This is to see which item is the most anticipated by the diecast community (at the very least the community on Facebook). Let's see if there's any trend between the items that get the most anticipation.

    First off, I'm comparing the latest deco samples of Vintage Ad Cars series 2.

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    The result became like this.
    53 Studebaker Commander: 38 likes
    67 Mercury Cougar: 44 likes
    68 Ford Club Wagon: 71 likes
    70 Chevy Monte Carlo: 33 likes
    77 Jeep CJ-5 Golden Eagle: 53 likes
    86 Chevy Caprice Brougham: 200 likes (including mine!)

    Comparing the likes each one of the cars of Vintage Ad Cars series 2, we can make certain observations.
    First, the number of likes, on average, hovers around 30~70.
    Second, if the number of likes is reaching more than 100, the item can be considered highly anticipated.

    Based on these observations, we can guess the 86 Caprice will definitely become difficult to get one, with many people stocking multiple items just because.

    I wish I could make an Excel sheet of all items and the corresponding number of likes, but due to my time limitations, I could only provide a few samples.
    Here are the recent items that received more than 100 likes:

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    There were also Ford SUV police interceptor and the 90s Ford Monster truck which received 100~130 likes. But I couldn't post the screenshots because of the upload limit.

    As for Fall Guy truck, as shown above, reaching a whopping 451 likes.
    The box GM trucks seems to be massively popular, with 91 K-5 Blazer and 83 Sierra getting more than 300 and 200 likes respectively.
    The roster also includes 90s Ford truck, Starsky & Hutch Gran Torino, and another Caprice.
    Except for Gran Torino and Ford SUV, all the cars that get >100 likes are from the 80s and 90s.

    Judging from the number of likes alone, at the very least, I find the 80s and 90s American cars to be the next market GreenLight should focus on.
    In comparison with the 50s to 70s, these two decades have been often neglected by the diecast companies. I have no idea what is the reason, but I assume partly because the early 80s is a part of the so-called "malaise era" and the car design since then had been boxy and considered less beautiful.
    Me personally, I find the idea that "boxy = ugly" is far from the truth, and as shown above, many many diecast collectors sought for the cars of this era.

    Anyhow, thanks for reading the wall of text and the product of boredom. Feel free to leave any feedback and have a great day

    (Some comments on technical issues: I only compared the "timeline photos". No "cover photos" or other kinds. I also excluded Hobby Exclusive cars because they are not coming in a package of six, and people's attention & likes concentrate on one item. This was done to make the comparison even.)
    Last edited by KingswoodBaby; 11-14-2019, 01:24 PM.

  • #2
    Originally posted by KingswoodBaby View Post

    Judging from the number of likes alone, at the very least, I find the 80s and 90s American cars to be the next market GreenLight should focus on.
    In comparison with the 50s to 70s, these two decades have been often neglected by the diecast companies. I have no idea what is the reason, but I assume partly because the early 80s is a part of the so-called "malaise era" and the car design since then had been boxy and considered less beautiful.
    I think one reason why they may not be focusing on 80's cars is
    because of the way the market is on the 1:1 real ones, little interest.

    Im not sure about all the likes and such as I dont have facebook.
    Interesting read Thanks for posting.

    Eric


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    • #3
      Fantastic article, Kingswoodbaby! I think this is very interesting insight and analysis. I'm not a facebook user, but you could definitely add me to the 1986 Caprice (I prefer the 1977 to 1979 model, but I still like this one a lot.)

      I think everything "comes into its own", and the 1980s is gradually becoming more desirable as people of that era become more nostalgic. I must add that 1960 through 1964 are not very well represented in 1/64 scale (compared to say the 1950s), and the 1970s only seems to have become more popular somewhat recently. Maybe the Matchbox 1971 Vista Cruiser broke the barrier when it came out about ten years ago, and now we get vehicles like the GM Squarebody pickup trucks, the AW Buick Estate Wagon, and GL 1977 Pontiac LeMans. Though sometimes it is a popular film or TV show that prompts GL to bring a model to the marketplace, and civilian editions follow. (I have no complaints with that!)

      Thank you for sharing this with us!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by 69ch View Post

        I think one reason why they may not be focusing on 80's cars is
        because of the way the market is on the 1:1 real ones, little interest.

        Im not sure about all the likes and such as I dont have facebook.
        Interesting read Thanks for posting.

        Eric

        I often forget how the 80s and 90s cars are not considered as valuable as cars of the 50s and 60s on the 1:1 market. They all look brilliant to me, but that's because I'm just too geeky about oldies American cars

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        • #5
          Originally posted by FourDoorFord View Post
          Fantastic article, Kingswoodbaby! I think this is very interesting insight and analysis. I'm not a facebook user, but you could definitely add me to the 1986 Caprice (I prefer the 1977 to 1979 model, but I still like this one a lot.)

          I think everything "comes into its own", and the 1980s is gradually becoming more desirable as people of that era become more nostalgic. I must add that 1960 through 1964 are not very well represented in 1/64 scale (compared to say the 1950s), and the 1970s only seems to have become more popular somewhat recently. Maybe the Matchbox 1971 Vista Cruiser broke the barrier when it came out about ten years ago, and now we get vehicles like the GM Squarebody pickup trucks, the AW Buick Estate Wagon, and GL 1977 Pontiac LeMans. Though sometimes it is a popular film or TV show that prompts GL to bring a model to the marketplace, and civilian editions follow. (I have no complaints with that!)

          Thank you for sharing this with us!
          Heh I wish I could like twice on Facebook.
          Interesting about the underrepresentation of 1960-1964 cars, I'd look into that more.
          Oh yeah, I also noticed the 70s has become a trend only recently. Previously we could only get 70s muscle cars and now we have station wagons, trucks and four-door sedans, which is super nice. Didn't know the Matchbox 71 Vista Cruiser kickstarted the trend. I appreciate Matchbox for bringing innovations. Loved the 70s Caprice they released, even though I haven't bought one.

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          • #6
            "I think everything "comes into its own", and the 1980s is gradually becoming more desirable as people of that era become more nostalgic."

            I agree with this comment from FourDoorFord thinking it holds weight.

            Eric

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            • #7
              Good detective work. I think Greenlight may be one of the best outside of Hot Wheels when it comes to a social media presence. Then again I do not follow many of the higher end diecast makers. Greenlight seems to get a lot of grief also, but I'm glad they are willing to ignore it and show us their creativity.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by KingswoodBaby View Post

                Heh I wish I could like twice on Facebook.
                Interesting about the underrepresentation of 1960-1964 cars, I'd look into that more.
                Oh yeah, I also noticed the 70s has become a trend only recently. Previously we could only get 70s muscle cars and now we have station wagons, trucks and four-door sedans, which is super nice. Didn't know the Matchbox 71 Vista Cruiser kickstarted the trend. I appreciate Matchbox for bringing innovations. Loved the 70s Caprice they released, even though I haven't bought one.
                I think the Vista Cruiser started the trend because it has been such a popular Matchbox model. Motor Max brought out the "Fresh Cherries" / "American Graffiti" cars, and I think those were a few years before the Vista Cruiser in 2009, but those 1980s and 1990s models don't seem to have been too popular because they were never released again. I'm not certain, but these MotorMax models may have been just before their time. Maybe it took something like the Vista Cruiser to kickstart the popularity trend. Many Americans from that time period remember this vehicle. I think it also helps if a car was a star of a movie or TV show to keep the memory alive.

                Is it easy or difficult to find Matchbox to purchase in Japan? I like the "hubcap" wheels on the Caprice re-color (dark pink / mauve) better, and it also seems to have "chrome" grille and bumpers.

                But about the 1960 to 1964 cars, I forgot about all the Chevrolet Impalas (especially 1964, along with the 1964 Chevelle!) that have been produced. And Hot Wheels has been pumping out many '63 / '64 Novas. The "suicide door" / "Kennedy" Lincoln Continental has also been done several times, But there were many more cars than just Chevrolets and Lincolns. AW does have the nice '64 Galaxie and Country Squire. And the 1964 Pontiac Grand Prix has been done by Matchbox (twice!) and AW. But consider that Chevrolet made around a million full-sized cars alone on a yearly basis in the early Sixties, and most Americans drove US brand cars at the time, It just seems that 1960 to 1963/64 are under-represented in relation to the number of the real counterparts.

                I would love to see a 1962 Oldsmobile Starfire Convertible in Bamboo Cream with the aluminum brushwork on the sides (my mother's first car) and various Buicks. Plymouth Valiant has yet to be done in diecast. I think a more scientific analysis needs to be done than just my perception, because I am starting to remember more early 1960s cars. But the late sixties you have tons of Muscle Cars, and the chrome and fins of the 1950s are also plentiful, Lots of 1957 Plymouths and Chevrolets to choose from!

                (I hope this hasn't taken the thread too far off course. If so, my apologies.)



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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JeepXJ View Post
                  Good detective work. I think Greenlight may be one of the best outside of Hot Wheels when it comes to a social media presence. Then again I do not follow many of the higher end diecast makers. Greenlight seems to get a lot of grief also, but I'm glad they are willing to ignore it and show us their creativity.
                  Thanks, JeepXJ. Yeah GL definitely has a decent marketing team. At least on Instagram, M2 posts often too. I wish the Round2 brands like Auto World or Johnny Lightning had a similar level of PR quality.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by FourDoorFord View Post

                    I think the Vista Cruiser started the trend because it has been such a popular Matchbox model. Motor Max brought out the "Fresh Cherries" / "American Graffiti" cars, and I think those were a few years before the Vista Cruiser in 2009, but those 1980s and 1990s models don't seem to have been too popular because they were never released again. I'm not certain, but these MotorMax models may have been just before their time. Maybe it took something like the Vista Cruiser to kickstart the popularity trend. Many Americans from that time period remember this vehicle. I think it also helps if a car was a star of a movie or TV show to keep the memory alive.

                    Is it easy or difficult to find Matchbox to purchase in Japan? I like the "hubcap" wheels on the Caprice re-color (dark pink / mauve) better, and it also seems to have "chrome" grille and bumpers.

                    But about the 1960 to 1964 cars, I forgot about all the Chevrolet Impalas (especially 1964, along with the 1964 Chevelle!) that have been produced. And Hot Wheels has been pumping out many '63 / '64 Novas. The "suicide door" / "Kennedy" Lincoln Continental has also been done several times, But there were many more cars than just Chevrolets and Lincolns. AW does have the nice '64 Galaxie and Country Squire. And the 1964 Pontiac Grand Prix has been done by Matchbox (twice!) and AW. But consider that Chevrolet made around a million full-sized cars alone on a yearly basis in the early Sixties, and most Americans drove US brand cars at the time, It just seems that 1960 to 1963/64 are under-represented in relation to the number of the real counterparts.

                    I would love to see a 1962 Oldsmobile Starfire Convertible in Bamboo Cream with the aluminum brushwork on the sides (my mother's first car) and various Buicks. Plymouth Valiant has yet to be done in diecast. I think a more scientific analysis needs to be done than just my perception, because I am starting to remember more early 1960s cars. But the late sixties you have tons of Muscle Cars, and the chrome and fins of the 1950s are also plentiful, Lots of 1957 Plymouths and Chevrolets to choose from!

                    (I hope this hasn't taken the thread too far off course. If so, my apologies.)


                    Oh yes, I see the Motormax 70s/80s cars quite often at second-hand shops here in Japan. I felt the selections are very unique at best (Matador, anyone?), and somehow odd at worst as if they chose the most "malaise"-y cars of malaise era. I am also not very fond of the flame tampo they put on the 76 Caprices. All in all, I kind of ignore them whenever I encounter them in shops, and I assume a lot of other people do.

                    Matchbox is not as prevalent as Hot Wheels in Japan You can find HW everywhere, even at local toy stores, but Matchbox is more available online. I assume the re-release of 70s Caprice means they sold out pretty well. I am also happy they announced the 90s Caprice police car, but somehow the front and tail lights are missing

                    I collect some Ertl American Muscle cars and they have 60 Starliner and 62 Catalina which are purely amazing. But yes they deserve more attention other than Impalas, Novas and Continentals. I think AW did a great job by also putting out 61 Dart Phoenix, 63 Polara and 64 Barracuda. This is why I love AW the most, no matter what. I know Johnny Lightning put out some early 60s cars but me personally want true 1/64

                    It's astonishing how Valiant hasn't been done in 1/64. One can hope for GL I guess, especially for the Hollywood series. As for Oldsmobile and Buick, yes they are way too under-represented, not only for the 60s but for all eras! Top of my wishlist would be 1964 Mercury Marauder, which was already done by Yatming in 1/18 and 1/43 scale so why not in 1/64?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by KingswoodBaby View Post

                      Oh yes, I see the Motormax 70s/80s cars quite often at second-hand shops here in Japan. I felt the selections are very unique at best (Matador, anyone?), and somehow odd at worst as if they chose the most "malaise"-y cars of malaise era. I am also not very fond of the flame tampo they put on the 76 Caprices. All in all, I kind of ignore them whenever I encounter them in shops, and I assume a lot of other people do.

                      Matchbox is not as prevalent as Hot Wheels in Japan You can find HW everywhere, even at local toy stores, but Matchbox is more available online. I assume the re-release of 70s Caprice means they sold out pretty well. I am also happy they announced the 90s Caprice police car, but somehow the front and tail lights are missing

                      I collect some Ertl American Muscle cars and they have 60 Starliner and 62 Catalina which are purely amazing. But yes they deserve more attention other than Impalas, Novas and Continentals. I think AW did a great job by also putting out 61 Dart Phoenix, 63 Polara and 64 Barracuda. This is why I love AW the most, no matter what. I know Johnny Lightning put out some early 60s cars but me personally want true 1/64

                      It's astonishing how Valiant hasn't been done in 1/64. One can hope for GL I guess, especially for the Hollywood series. As for Oldsmobile and Buick, yes they are way too under-represented, not only for the 60s but for all eras! Top of my wishlist would be 1964 Mercury Marauder, which was already done by Yatming in 1/18 and 1/43 scale so why not in 1/64?
                      HAH!!!! I swear you are really an American pretending to be Japanese (you have an "American" sense of humor!) But seriously, yes, the tampos on the Motor Max Caprice almost ruined it. I bought one and removed the tampos, I just could not look at those flames any more and I don't care if I destroyed it's resale value!!!!

                      I agree, I prefer true 1/64. I think the Maurauder would be an interesting choice, especially because of the quirky "Breezeway" window.

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                      • #12
                        These would probably be the only ones I would bring home. I have a few of the Starsky and Hutch Torino.




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                        • #13
                          Of the models you've shown, I'm most interested in the red Caprice, Fall Guy truck, and Ford Econoline van.

                          The Monte Carlo needs some adjustments before production if I'm going to consider buying it. The wheels/tires are way too large giving it a 4x4 appearance, and memory tells me that vinyl roof should be a darker green than the paint color, not a lighter shade.

                          As for the Starsky and Hutch Torino, I hope they sell all they make, but none will come home with me. I have the Corgi Jr. and bought the JL years ago on sale at KayBee, but I left the Hot Wheels version on the pegs, and plan to leave this one, too.

                          I really like that red Caprice, though. That's a keeper.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Lane1through75 View Post
                            Of the models you've shown, I'm most interested in the red Caprice, Fall Guy truck, and Ford Econoline van.

                            The Monte Carlo needs some adjustments before production if I'm going to consider buying it. The wheels/tires are way too large giving it a 4x4 appearance, and memory tells me that vinyl roof should be a darker green than the paint color, not a lighter shade.

                            As for the Starsky and Hutch Torino, I hope they sell all they make, but none will come home with me. I have the Corgi Jr. and bought the JL years ago on sale at KayBee, but I left the Hot Wheels version on the pegs, and plan to leave this one, too.

                            I really like that red Caprice, though. That's a keeper.
                            Nice choices Lane1through75! At least for me, the priority of what I buy is what I find appeals (love the Caprice) and has not been cast yet (can't believe this is the first Econoline of this generation in 1/64!), I am just LOVING these advertising models! (This is a rare occasion where Greenlight isn't obsessed with detail, and they left the fender skirts off the ad Monte Carlo...I'm not too concerned as it looks better this way to me).

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                            • #15
                              I think people of my age in the 30-45 age group are making larger inroads in the hobby now with companies focusing on vehicles of the 70s/80s. When I first got on the internet forums 15 years ago related to small scale diecast I could have only dreamed a company with the capacity GL would be doing all the models in the two featured releases in this thread. For so long we were inundated with Corvettes, Stangs, Camaros, VWs and tri-year bowties. They sold. Well. But at the same time they also appealed for the most part to baby boomer era collectors. As the collector age for the hobby has become a bit younger the choices from companies reflects this. The massive appeal of JDM to a large part proves my point with children of the 80s remembering their parents driving a Corolla or a Pathfinder or themselves driving a Honda CR-X as they were cheap and plentiful in the 90s as we got driver's license. I think we see a generational change happening in the market. Also keep in the mind the people designing and choosing castings is also younger as well.

                              Facebook likes is a fascinating way of gauging interest in new releases. With the ginormous number of releases and new castings from GL it's quite difficult to keep up with models I actively wish to collect. Judging by the shelf space in box stores like Meijers, HL and a few others I think GL has established themselves as the #1 1/64 brand in at least the North American market.

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