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  • Winsconsin Toy Company

    Just acquired these from eBay. Only missing the Warpath.
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    Last edited by Christophe; 11-03-2019, 05:02 PM.

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    Nice group. I don't know the history of these "Redlines". I'm thinking that they really didn't come out during the real "Redline" era. Right, wrong?

    Rick

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    • #3
      Not an expert, but I believe the original Spectraflame paint only lasted a couple years. My guess would be that these are considered original redlines, but not as kewl as the first ones, due to the paint. Have seen the orange Beetle before, and pretty sure it's early (definitely counter-intuitive).
      - Jeff
      Supreme Miniature Vehicle Storage Solutions Architect

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      • #4
        Looked into these a little more. According to Tomart's Price Guide 6th Ed. These came out in a baggie with a header card in 1980. Black plastic base distinguishes the VW from the 1974 metal base version.

        Rick

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        • #5
          Originally posted by PENSNO1 View Post
          Looked into these a little more. According to Tomart's Price Guide 6th Ed. These came out in a baggie with a header card in 1980. Black plastic base distinguishes the VW from the 1974 metal base version.
          Good to know. Now just need to remember.
          - Jeff
          Supreme Miniature Vehicle Storage Solutions Architect

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          • #6
            i could be wrong but i think there was a 4th one.the way to tell them was the black plastic bases.

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            • #7
              The spectraflame paint was dropped around 1973, the last "official" redlines were 1977, with enamel paint. Mattel was doing some promo runs back then, most redline collectors are familiar with the Shell gas station giveaways (enamel paint). The story behind these Wisconsin Toy issues as I read it, is that Mattel produced these during the redline era for a contract customer as a promo...but the customer backed out after they were made. They sat around for a few years and Wisconsin Toy (or its parent company) bought the stock from Mattel, and had them packed in baggies with a header card similar to the old Shell gas station freebies. The tell is the plastic base on these, so even though they were issued in the early 1980s, a few years after the last official redline hit the pegs, they are real redlines...although you get a few "experts" who don't know the story behind them and push them to the side. It's just another chapter in Hot Wheels' history.
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              • #8
                Originally posted by pegers View Post
                i could be wrong but i think there was a 4th one.the way to tell them was the black plastic bases.
                The 4th one is a red Warpath.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by jt3 View Post
                  The spectraflame paint was dropped around 1973, the last "official" redlines were 1977, with enamel paint. Mattel was doing some promo runs back then, most redline collectors are familiar with the Shell gas station giveaways (enamel paint). The story behind these Wisconsin Toy issues as I read it, is that Mattel produced these during the redline era for a contract customer as a promo...but the customer backed out after they were made. They sat around for a few years and Wisconsin Toy (or its parent company) bought the stock from Mattel, and had them packed in baggies with a header card similar to the old Shell gas station freebies. The tell is the plastic base on these, so even though they were issued in the early 1980s, a few years after the last official redline hit the pegs, they are real redlines...although you get a few "experts" who don't know the story behind them and push them to the side. It's just another chapter in Hot Wheels' history.
                  Correct. Here are the baggies.

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                  • #10
                    oh I see
                    they got the leftover Redlines & sold them?
                    real cool

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                    • #11
                      I had some of these at one time in my collection - always had wondered about the connection with the Wisconsin Toy Company so appreciate the background information.

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                      • #12
                        Finally completed this series with the Warpath.

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                        • #13
                          Congrats for completing the series. 👍I'm on the hunt for all 4 of those. 👍

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                          • #14
                            nice completion.

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                            • #15
                              Very interesting models / thread, I never knew of these nor their background before.
                              Doug

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