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  • Tomica Porsche 956 Variants

    In the late 1980s my Tomica collection was dramatically improved using Bob Blum (a Tomica Japan importer) in Albany, NY as a special Tomica source for unique Porsche 956 short tail versions with removeable rear and minimally detailed engine. My collection had started with an inexpensive ISEKI 956 #1. in a generic Tomy box. Bob first provided a Porsche Racing 956 #2 in a special Tomy Tomica box.



    He also made me aware of some slightly (at that time) more expensive versions that came in generic Tomy boxes and special boxes that were exclusively made by Tomica for race teams & sponsors.



    Tomica contract manufactured several Porsche 956 models as expertly decorated actual 962C racing versions for Miniture Car Shop Gulliver. My collection has included the pink & white Blaupunkt #9. Unfortunately the one that has always been elusive due to availability and price (one of these is currently selling on eBay for over $1,000.00) is the 1987 LeMans Winning Rothmans Porsche 962C #17 driven by Stuck, Bell & Holbert.





    CarreraRSR

  • #2
    Very nice!

    The following comes from the two Tomica Variation books.

    F36-3 from June 1984 to 1988 - 10 variations


    20200529_213054 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr


    20200529_213306 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr



    116-1 from 1988 to ... ??? - 9 variations


    20200529_212938 by Michael Foertsch, on Flickr
    Michael "Toyotageek"
    Japanese Minicar Garage https://japaneseminicargarage.weebly.com/

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    • #3
      toyotageek - thank you for your positive response and reply. From what I can tell from your photo attachments it appears that my first Tomica Tomy 956 variiation acquisitions were the 7 ISEKI #1, 3 or 9 Porsche Racing #2 and 2 Advan Alpha #18 from the F36-3 ten car series 1984 - 1988. I have never seen the yellow 3 Cibie #1 from that initial series. My other two Tomica 956/962 acquisitions seen to have come from the 116-1 nine car series 1988 - ??? 2 Blaupunkt #9 and 4 Kenwood #10. I have never seen 3 Takefuji #33, 5 alpha #45 , 6 slpha # 7, 8 Taisan # #2 or yellow 9 From A #27.

      Your knowledge and expertise with Tomica models is appreciated. Do you have any info & photos from the two Tomica Variation books
      referred for the variations of Tomica F31 Porsche 935 Turbo and F43 Porsche 936 Turbo variations? Thanks for your assistance.

      CarreraRSR

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      • #4
        The #18 and #2 cars look as if they might have been a part of a gift set from 1984 called "Tomica Group C Fair", especially the #18, as the box looks the same, it doesn't have a "B" on the end flap does it?, individual model boxes are lettered either A,B,C,D,E,and F,

        I picked up the boxed set of six cars at a flea market, could be 15- 20 years ago, dealer just had the boxed set of cars from the gift set in the outer sleeve, not the display or anything that might have come with them, A member over at Swifty's .told me where they were from, posted this photo, and name of set, and provided a link to his source.



        Here is the source linkhttp://www.tomica1970.com/tomica/Alacar ... a0607.html

        PS, I'd bought a few models from Bob Blum years ago, he was the Tomica guy that's for sure, he always had a huge list for sale, of both old and new issues.
        Doug

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        • #5
          Douglas - Yes, the generic Tomica box on my Advan Alpha 956 did have a white letter B. Unfortunately that model was lost in a trade several years ago for a value a great deal less than they are selling for now on eBay. All Tomica & Tomy Porsches like these 956 versions are going for insane prices. These somewhat rare but still available Tomica F series model were good quality but not highly detailed. What has caused them to be so highly valued today? Even the Tomica Pocket Car US versions of these Porsches in blister packs are currently expensive. They are definitely too rich for my model collecting budget.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by CarreraRSR View Post
            toyotageek - thank you for your positive response and reply.
            I will update with some hopefully helpful information later today when I have more time.

            This morning I have been researching this casting, and my wife has been assisting with translations... so please stay tuned.
            Michael "Toyotageek"
            Japanese Minicar Garage https://japaneseminicargarage.weebly.com/

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            • #7
              Okay.... let's see if I can do this.

              With the help of my wife I translated and organized the information for both series of the PORSCHE 956

              I will describe the variations according to the numbering system in the photos above and included here...

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              First, I will list the common traits of ALL the models.
              • Seat/Interior Plastic - Black
              • Windows - Clear
              • Wheels - 10F
              • Black Chassis
              • © TOMY on base
              (I plan to include a wheel illustration, but I'm having transfer issues at the moment. I'll fix it later)

              The Variation books indicate a "change in scale on the base" on all the versions, except the first #1 ISEKI
              I'm not sure what it specifically means, so it would help if someone has the very first model and any later model to compare the underside. Maybe the first model had the wrong scale printed on the base?

              Now I'll go over the individual differences:

              (the first color/colors listed for each model is the body color)

              F36-3
              1. white; ISEKI - blue tampo; ISEKI window sticker
              2. black/red; ADVAN 18; label; ALPHA window label; Group C Fair set
              3. white; PORSCHE 2; navy blue tampo; red tampo on cabin roof; Group C Fair set
              4. white; ISEKI; navy blue tampo; ISEKI window sticker
              5. yellow; CIBIE; black tampo; Kawaguchiko Motor Museum special
              6. black/red; ADVAN 25; label; ALPHA window label; Gift Set-145, Tomica Endurance Race set (Oct 1985)
              7. white; ISEKI; navy blue tampo; ISEKI window label
              8. black/red; ADVAN 1; label; ALPHA window label; Yokohama Rubber/Tire special
              9. white; PORSCHE 2; navy blue tampo; no red tampo on cabin roof; Group C Fair set
              10. white; ROTHMANS; navy blue tampo; minicar shop Gulliver special
              116-4
              1. blue/white; OMRON 55 tampo; Gulliver special
              2. pink/white; ITALIA BLAUPUNKT 9; black tampo; Gulliver special
              3. red; TAKEFUJI PORSCHE 33; tampo; Gulliver special
              4. red/black; KENWOOD 10; tampo; Gulliver
              5. black; ALPHA 45; tampo; Gulliver
              6. black; ALPHA 7; tampo; Gulliver
              7. white; ISEKI; navy blue tampo (same as F36.4 & F36.7)
              8. black; TAISAN 2; tampo; Gulliver
              9. cadmium yellow; FROM A 27; tampo; minicar shop IIADO

              Notes:

              The books are specific in calling some of the items STICKER vs LABEL. I'm not sure as to the significance of this, but I did notice that some of CarreraRSR's photos had separate sticker/label sheets.
              Michael "Toyotageek"
              Japanese Minicar Garage https://japaneseminicargarage.weebly.com/

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              • #8
                toyotageek - thank you for the update with excellent info regarding the Tomica 956 variations in the F36-3 & 116-4 series. Yes, several of the 956 versions in my collection featured separate sheets with a few sticker style labels like the ones for the top of the windshield. The pink/white Blaupunkt and red/black Kenwood were Miniature Car Shop Gulliver specials.

                Do you have any similar reference info & photos from the two Tomica Variation books for the variations of Tomica F31 Porsche 935 Turbo and F43 Porsche 936 Turbo versions?

                All mint or original condition Tomica & Tomy Porsches like these 956 versions are going for insane prices. These somewhat rare but still available Tomica F series models were good quality but not highly detailed like 1/64 Kyosho Minicar Collection models. What has caused these Tomicas to be so highly valued today? Even the Tomica Pocket Car US versions of these Porsches in blister packs are currently expensive. Kenwood versions are current listed on eBay for $123 & $300 best offer plus shipping. Gulliver Rothmans #17 versions are on eBay listed at unbelievable $999 best offer & $1030 best offer with free shipping. What is your opinion for the justification of this pricing?

                CarreraRSR

                Last edited by CarreraRSR; 05-31-2020, 07:11 PM.

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                • #9
                  Excellent collection of 956's.

                  I have a few myself and have been lucky enough early in my collecting of Tomica, to get a couple that now I couldn't justify purchasing due to how much they are going for. I'm always on the look out for ones I don't have. But, like you mentioned the prices are just too far out there.

                  I've recently bought a few Tomicas from Bob Blum.
                  https://www.diecastgarage.org/node/79472 I plan on more soon.

                  Here's my Porsche 956's.

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                  Gift set G-145

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                  Rick

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                  • #10
                    PENSNO1 - These are some great Tomica 956 models you have obtained. The two black/red Advan Alpha ones are excellent and the black Alpha #45 is fantastic! I have not bought any models from Bob Blum for over 20 years. Please provide his current contact info.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CarreraRSR View Post
                      toyotageek - thank you for the update with excellent info regarding the Tomica 956 variations in the F36-3 & 116-4 series. Yes, several of the 956 versions in my collection featured separate sheets with a few sticker style labels like the ones for the top of the windshield. The pink/white Blaupunkt and red/black Kenwood were Miniature Car Shop Gulliver specials.

                      Do you have any similar reference info & photos from the two Tomica Variation books for the variations of Tomica F31 Porsche 935 Turbo and F43 Porsche 936 Turbo versions?

                      All mint or original condition Tomica & Tomy Porsches like these 956 versions are going for insane prices. These somewhat rare but still available Tomica F series models were good quality but not highly detailed like 1/64 Kyosho Minicar Collection models. What has caused these Tomicas to be so highly valued today? Even the Tomica Pocket Car US versions of these Porsches in blister packs are currently expensive. Kenwood versions are current listed on eBay for $123 & $300 best offer plus shipping. Gulliver Rothmans #17 versions are on eBay listed at unbelievable $999 best offer & $1030 best offer with free shipping. What is your opinion for the justification of this pricing?

                      CarreraRSR
                      CarreraRSR, the Tomica books have these other models in them. I will try to get to them as soon as I have some time again. Please bear with us as it may take us a while. My wife helps me with translating and understanding the text out of sheer kindness, so I must request such help accordingly. She is already asking me for her stimulus check for helping...

                      As far as the prices... supply & demand I guess. Porsche are popular.
                      Michael "Toyotageek"
                      Japanese Minicar Garage https://japaneseminicargarage.weebly.com/

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by PENSNO1 View Post
                        Here's my Porsche 956's.

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                        Rick, if you ever happen to dig out your Porsches can you take pictures of the bases? I'm especially interested in seeing if the ISEKI you have has a different scale on the base from any of the other versions.
                        Michael "Toyotageek"
                        Japanese Minicar Garage https://japaneseminicargarage.weebly.com/

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CarreraRSR View Post
                          PENSNO1 - These are some great Tomica 956 models you have obtained. The two black/red Advan Alpha ones are excellent and the black Alpha #45 is fantastic! I have not bought any models from Bob Blum for over 20 years. Please provide his current contact info.
                          Thanks!
                          The black Alpha #45 is actually 116-4. I have it numbered F36-3 as that is not correct.

                          I have a PM to you about Bob Blum.

                          Rick

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by toyotageek View Post

                            Rick, if you ever happen to dig out your Porsches can you take pictures of the bases? I'm especially interested in seeing if the ISEKI you have has a different scale on the base from any of the other versions.
                            Yes, I'll do that as soon as I can. Maybe not tonight though.

                            Rick

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CarreraRSR View Post
                              Do you have any similar reference info & photos from the two Tomica Variation books for the variations of Tomica F31 Porsche 935 Turbo and F43 Porsche 936 Turbo versions?

                              All mint or original condition Tomica & Tomy Porsches like these 956 versions are going for insane prices. These somewhat rare but still available Tomica F series models were good quality but not highly detailed like 1/64 Kyosho Minicar Collection models. What has caused these Tomicas to be so highly valued today? Even the Tomica Pocket Car US versions of these Porsches in blister packs are currently expensive. Kenwood versions are current listed on eBay for $123 & $300 best offer plus shipping. Gulliver Rothmans #17 versions are on eBay listed at unbelievable $999 best offer & $1030 best offer with free shipping. What is your opinion for the justification of this pricing?

                              CarreraRSR
                              I started a thread on the F31-1 Porsche Turbo variations. I'll start a F43 Porsche 936 thread soon. Or add to a thread that you or someone else can start. Michael or myself can add the pages from our Tomica Collection books.

                              My opinion on why the prices for these Tomica Pocket Car US versions and boxed Tomica Porsches are valued so high compared to the more detailed Kyosho or more current models that are more detailed, is simply the Tomicas were marketed as "Toys" not collector pieces. (Similar to Hot Wheels Red Lines and original 80's Blackwalls) A lot of these were bought for kids to play with and thus destroyed as kids do. They mostly weren't bought and put on a shelf. Now these kids that had them then, are grown and want them again. The Tomica Kenwood variations were very limited I assume and probably only available from certain vendors. I personally have no interest in the new detailed models, Kyosho or otherwise. I really have no interest in the new Tomica or the Tomica Limited Vintage for that matter. That's just me though. I CAN understand why other collectors like and want them though. They are really nice.

                              Rick

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